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Predestination Vs Free Will Reddit. In the sermon that i linked to a few posts back tim kelle r raises some good points. Also, satan will end up in hell despite of his free will to disobey god.
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If there is predestination, it means no matter what you do, you cant alter the outcome. Al qadr and free will are contradictory. After i watch it, i will post my comments.
Free will requires going beyond logic, as does the idea that god (a subjective being) is the first cause.
I've seen quite a few people trying to justify this by in a way saying suck it up. Choice is our optionizing factor, because we know what we can do with impunity and what we will be 'called on the carpet' for doing. Predestination is a chiefly a concept dealing with god's salvation and redemption of man. Free will, predestination wins decisively, biblically speaking.
